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作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 11:10
标题: 新总理：Scott Morrison 宫斗大戏。
本帖最后由 周星星1832 于 24-8-2018 12:58 编辑
这么精彩都没人关注吗
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 11:10
@chubbycat
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 11:10
@Serin
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 11:11
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作者: chubbycat 时间: 23-8-2018 11:14
周猩猩没人关注吗？ 
@Serin @jc2602 @蓝山夜妖 @8戒 @chu4 @ArBen @guangyang @周星星1832 @黑玛丽 @shanzee @敏感词 @dcxg @李天真 @小眉留 @菊花宝典
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 11:17
关注我个猫
作者: stfz 时间: 23-8-2018 11:19
周星星重现江湖
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 11:20
肥猫跪着哭着让我回来看看
作者: chubbycat 时间: 23-8-2018 11:22
作者: stfz 时间: 23-8-2018 11:23
真是难得，再能一睹周星星芳容，难道天有異象？
作者: chubbycat 时间: 23-8-2018 11:25
一睹周星星芳容 
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 11:25
换总理算异像吗。。。。。。。。。。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 11:27
去睡把。。。时间不早了。。。。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 11:31
Peter Dutton千万不可上台阿。。。太丑
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作者: MICHELLE07 时间: 23-8-2018 11:34
欢迎回来～～～
作者: MICHELLE07 时间: 23-8-2018 11:37
是这个吗？SERIN 和MASON已经讨论得很热烈了
http://www.freeoz.org/ibbs/forum ... id=1297395#lastpost
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 11:39
对的哎。。。
正在开会呢。。。
本来是俩人
現在三个人。。。。
作者: stfz 时间: 23-8-2018 11:53
瓦数太高，费电
能不能加个DIMMER SWITCH, 调暗一点？
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 11:57
他说要减少电费的gst。。。。。。。。。。。
作者: 愚夫 时间: 23-8-2018 11:58
赤日炎炎似火烧，
田里禾苗半枯焦。
澳洲农民急抓狂，
党魁政客藏猫猫。
欢迎@周星星1832 找回密码重新登录~~
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:03
你看我像是找不到密码那种人吗
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:03
https://www.theguardian.com/aust ... anberra-chaos-spill
现场直播
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:18
The resignations: a summaryIt’s been a whirlwind couple of days. Just to recap, these are theministers we know have resigned so far.
- finance minister, Mathias Cormann
- trade minister, Steve Ciobo
- health minister, Greg Hunt
- jobs minister, Michaelia Cash
- law enforcement minister, Angus Taylor
- communications minister, Mitch Fifield
- multicultural affairs minister, Alan Tudge
- human services minister, Michael Keenan
- assistant science minister, Zed Seselja
- assistant treasurer, Michael Sukkar
- assistant minister to the prime minister, James McGrath
- international development minister, Concetta Fierravanti-Wells
The telling blow for Turnbull was, of course, the loss of Cormann, Cash, and Fifield, all at once. Cormann in particular takes significant numbers with him. Once those three abandoned Turnbull, they set off a chain reaction. We watched more junior ministers (Ciobo, Taylor, Tudge, Keenan) resign quite quickly afterwards.
作者: Serin 时间: 23-8-2018 12:25
Abbott被夺权时，推特上的hashtag是 #PutOutYourOnions
Dutton夺权失败时，推特上的hashtag是 #PutOutYourPotatos
作者: 愚夫 时间: 23-8-2018 12:29
看面部表情，似像非像~~
作者: mason00 时间: 23-8-2018 12:32
政客打架和幼儿园有一拼，澳洲出不了川普某种程度说明大家日子还可以，都选一些没过错的人。什么时候没工作的投票人一大块了，估计得出强力政客了
作者: 老毒物 时间: 23-8-2018 12:35
一天没发够200个帖子，
就不是真正的星星
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:35
工党要上台了。。。
也是个丑的
作者: Serin 时间: 23-8-2018 12:35
周星星
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:36
人断不可貌相
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:38
问题是美国换个头也不像澳洲这么容易
作者: Serin 时间: 23-8-2018 12:38
Shorten要是偿愿上台的话，推特上或许会有#PutOutYourSausages
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:38
糖宝看来肯定没戏了。。。另外俩人选了
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:39
The Senate is still sitting, as a reminder. But the governmentfrontbench is now so sparse we’re all wondering what on earth is going to happen. Four ministers and two assistant ministers who sit in the Senate have resigned. But they still have to front up for Senate question time at 2pm.
Labor sources think the only ministers left to answer questions areSimon Birmingham, Marise Payne, Bridget McKenzie, and Nigel Scullion.
Scullion, the indigenous affairs minister, might even end up as the government’s leader in the senate.
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:42
哎。。太丢脸了。。。。。。
大头宝宝
作者: Serin 时间: 23-8-2018 12:42
毕肖这次倒还没倒戈，对她印象提高一丢丢。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:44
糖宝2０分钟要发表辞职演讲了。。。。
作者: Serin 时间: 23-8-2018 12:47
还有一种可能性是糖宝和肚疼都拿不到足够的支持，毕肖或成最大赢家。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:48
是我脸盲吗
七号台直播的一个女的好像tony abbott的小情人。。。。。。。。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:48
糖宝应该是辞职了。。一点就要发表演讲了
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:49
Peta Credlin, Tony Abbott’s former chief of staff, is giving Sky News her interpretation of Malcolm Turnbull’s failings.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, she says Turnbull should never have left Abbott out of cabinet.
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 12:50
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true love
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 13:05
Turnbull will not stand in spillTurnbull says if a leadership spill is called, he will not stand.
In terms of my own intentions, when the party room meeting is called, I will invite a spill motion to be moved. If the motion is carried, I will treat that as a vote of no confidence and I will not stand as a candidate in the ballot.
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 13:05
Turnbull says he is still waiting for letterMalcolm Turnbull materialises. He looks worse for wear. But he is still seeking to prolong his leadership. He says he is still waiting to see the petition calling for a party room meeting with a majority of the party’s signatures on it.
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 13:06
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 13:08
dutton也很悬阿。。。。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 13:19
So, Turnbull is seeking to buy time. He is asking for the party room meeting to take place tomorrow, at midday.
The press conference was also used to highlight the serious doubts over Dutton’s eligibility. He wants the party to see the solicitor-general’s legal advice before the spill.
作者: Serin 时间: 23-8-2018 13:30
他们俩在一起的话，你让韩森肿么办？
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 13:35
白澳的韩森不如那个红衣女。。。。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 13:36
The time could prove crucial. It does two things:
- it gives Scott Morrison more time to build support for a tilt at the leadership
- it gives more time for concerns about Dutton’s eligibility to foment within the Coalition, including by allowing the solicitor general to deliver his advice before tomorrow’s party room meeting.
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 13:46
要点
1。 43个签名。。。。
2。dutton合格吗。。。
3。明天中午开会
4。如果有43个签名。。糖宝下台。。
作者: mason00 时间: 23-8-2018 13:53
Turnball继续做下去也没什么问题，澳洲还没到搞不下去，大危机的时候。Dutton这种人就是制度培养出来的背后捅刀的小人，不是针对人，应该反省一下这个制度了，据说从keating时代就是这样。
作者: Serin 时间: 23-8-2018 14:19
澳大利亚是议会制，大选的对象是政党，不直接选举大统领。党魁只是党内势力的代言人。要和美国的总统制比较的话，真的很难说孰优孰劣。反正总比天朝的帝制好。
作者: mason00 时间: 23-8-2018 14:21
好像英国也是有这种换党内首相的事情？
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 15:06
Channel Seven is reporting that Julie Bishop, the foreign minister, is standing for the leadership. Just a reminder that in this chaotic environment, claims and counter-claims are flying thick and fast. Not to say they’re not true, but we need to treat them with care. We’re working to confirm the report and will tell you if and when we do.
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 15:07
哇塞。。。。群魔乱舞了
作者: Serin 时间: 23-8-2018 15:12
对。上个月May还差点被challenge一次。
作者: Serin 时间: 23-8-2018 15:14
House of Cards的戏码。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 15:31
这么精彩的戏码还要等到明天
糖宝真得是不甘心啊。。。。
作者: Serin 时间: 23-8-2018 15:37
糖宝是搞拖延战术，恶心那帮backstabber。人心散了，队伍没法带了，这个是现状。他说不定真的就转而支持毕肖去了。不过这么搞法，最偷着乐的肯定是Shorten，下一届选举如果工党还不能赢的话，简直无法想象。
反正说到底，糖宝早就是人生赢家了。做首相是实现人生理想，虽说做得确实不咋地。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 23-8-2018 15:41
我要认真考虑。。。下次大选选谁的问题了
作者: Serin 时间: 23-8-2018 15:48
本帖最后由 Serin 于 23-8-2018 15:51 编辑
另外，联盟党本身就主要由两大势力，保守派和自由派。对应到英国的政治传统上，就是托利党和辉格党。在工党还没有兴起的一战之前，英国政治角力就是这两个党派之间的事情。澳大利亚没有名义上的托利党和辉格党（当然英国现在也没有了，演变成保守党和自由党了），但是保守派和自由派联合成联盟党对抗工党就是现今的政治格局。所以联盟党内部远非铁板一块，政治理念不同、利益摆不平都是可以想象的事情。
作者: MillerYang 时间: 23-8-2018 23:47
还是选习大大省心
作者: chubbycat 时间: 23-8-2018 23:49
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 06:34
是的。。。。支持习大大一统澳洲。。赞。。。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 06:35
要不普京大帝也行啊。。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 06:35
要不普京大帝也行啊。。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 06:35
要不普京大帝也行啊。。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 06:44
Here’s what we’re expecting:
- There’s a Turnbull-imposed time for the party room meeting at midday tomorrow. Turnbull is saying he’ll only hold the meeting (and therefore allow a spill for the leadership) if he is presented with the petition of 43 signatures, a majority of the party. Dutton’s camp think they’re close to that number.
- The possible contenders so far are Scott Morrison, Peter Dutton and Julie Bishop. That is liable to change. The numbers are being worked late into the night. Our latest word was that Morrison was slightly ahead of Bishopas the alternative candidate to Dutton.
- Turnbull is all but done. The fatal blowwas delivered by Mathias Cormann, Michaelia Cash and Mitch Fifield this morning, when they abandoned him. If the spill is called, Turnbull will take it as a vote of no-confidence in his leadership and step aside. He says he would leave parliament, which puts Dutton in a tricky position, because it triggers a byelection and jeopardises the Coalition’s ability to marshall a majority in the lower house.
- A crucial piece to this puzzle is Dutton’s eligibility to sit in parliament. Turnbull wants the solicitor general’s advice on Dutton’s case before the party room before the leadership spill. It’s unclear whether that advice will arrive in time. Dutton’s camp thinks he’s in the clear, and have their own legal advice to support that position. Leading constitutional lawyers disagree. They think there’s a serious question to be answered by Dutton. Only parliament can refer him to the high court but the issue might be enough to create doubt and anxiety in Liberal ranks.
- Don’t forget those crossbenchers and rogue Nationals, either. Darren Chester, a Nat, is still not saying whether he would guarantee confidence and supply to a Dutton government. Other crossbenchers are making similar statements. The Coalition has a one-seat majority.
作者: chubbycat 时间: 24-8-2018 07:07
作者: chubbycat 时间: 24-8-2018 07:09
周猩猩支持习包子一统澳洲！
@Serin @jc2602 @蓝山夜妖 @8戒 @chu4 @ArBen @guangyang @周星星1832 @黑玛丽 @shanzee @敏感词 @dcxg @李天真 @小眉留 @菊花宝典
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 07:32
支持
回国就不用办签证了
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 08:16
07:52OK, this is significant. West Australian Liberal Ben Morton has just said he thinks he might be the 43rd signature on the petition.
“I could be the last person having to sign it,” were his exact words.
Morton was stopped on his way into parliament. He’s thrown his support behind Tthe treasurer, Scott Morrison.
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 08:48
43票了
糖宝
作者: chubbycat 时间: 24-8-2018 08:50
作者: Serin 时间: 24-8-2018 08:51
Who the bookies back
Bookies often get these contests right, so for what it's worth, here are the current odds for who will become Australia's 30th prime minister:
Julie Bishop: $2.10
Peter Dutton: $2.25
Scott Morison: $5.00
Tony Abbott: $24.00
If you're inclined to take a punt, we suggest you don't waste your money on Tony Abbott. There's zero chance the former prime minister will throw his hat in the ring today because he has very little supporters left following a campaign against Malcolm Turnbull.
Matthew Knott explains here why Mr Abbott presents a dilemma for whoever wins today. The alarm about Abbott returning to cabinet was so strong that some MPs, who were inclined to support Mr Dutton, have remained loyal to Mr Turnbull.
Liberal MPs will be furious if Mr Abbott is rewarded for his white-anting with a return to cabinet. But if he remains on the backbench, he may continue to cause trouble, positioning himself for a potential return to the leadership after the next election.
作者: Serin 时间: 24-8-2018 08:53
周星星主动献身当韭菜！
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 09:00
韭菜贵阿。。。。
最便宜的时候都9。9刀一公斤
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 09:02
目前看起来Julie Bishop是个不错的选择
总比白澳激进分子强
作者: Serin 时间: 24-8-2018 09:11
然而中间派虽然在民间赔率低，但是得不到党内足够的支持，转牛就是这么被搞下去了。联盟党总体而言是越来越右了，党内大佬对肚疼更支持。
作者: Serin 时间: 24-8-2018 09:23
Malcolm Turnbull made a deal with the devil. Now the devil has called time
Malcolm Turnbull won the Liberal leadership by striking a Faustian pact to sell his political soul to the devil. Now the devil has called time on the deal.
The deal with Turnbull’s factional and ideological Satan, the Liberals’ conservative confederacy, was simple.
Turnbull — a moderate who believed in a Republic, climate change and same-sex marriage — would betray all these beliefs in return for high office.
He would be allowed to be prime minister on condition that he implement Tony Abbott’s pre-existing policies. And, it was assumed, win elections.
But, after three years, the conservatives have decided that Turnbull’s time is up.
这段挺让人唏嘘的，不过讲得在理。个人的政治理念虽然是相对进步的，但是被裹挟在政党的势力之中不仅无法施展手脚，还不得不放弃原则。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 09:24
如果他上台。。。选工党必须的
作者: Serin 时间: 24-8-2018 09:25
无奈Shorten那个货怎么看怎么不顺眼……
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 09:28
没事。。。。。。他也会被宫斗下去的。。。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 09:40
Dutton 'not incapable' of sitting in parliament: reports Sky News is reporting the solicitor-general’s advice finds that Mr Dutton is “not incapable” of sitting as a member of parliament. That will be of significant relief for Peter Dutton.
We’re still working to get a copy of the advice in full and will let you know, as soon as we have it.
作者: mason00 时间: 24-8-2018 11:01
转右是保守方向吗？大势所趋，西方世界领头羊美国都要转保守做法了。我是看不惯自由主义的做法，老实说同性婚姻，难民问题上，现代自由派其实没什么主见，完全是放任自由，很容易被资本利益或者各种势力控制的主流媒体左右。一句“爱”的名义再明白不过，这些人都是些没吃过现实苦的理想主义者。
我敢说这帮人也是不愿意努力工作，觉得过自由舒服的好日子是自己天生的权利。实际上就是被资本家利用，制造业，实业根本不可能考这帮人，这帮人也不可能和日本，韩国，中国等亚洲未了生活拼命努力的劳动力竞争。
早先的左派自由主义其实是突破右派保守主义对人的强力控制，工会这些都是平衡资本家和劳动力之间关系的。现在产业都转移了，资本家根本不需要和工会谈判，除了国家负责的那几个教师，交通行业。现在的右派保守主义也不是以前倾向资本家的了，而是提倡强力政府，制约跨国企业对本国不负责任的行为。同时还要收收年轻的自由主义者们努力过日子，美国梦，澳洲梦不是投票喊口号搞出来的，没有扎扎实实的工作，便宜进口货不是天上掉餡品。
说这么多，好像不应该只是回复你啊。
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 11:27
Peter Dutton enters Turnbull's office Gareth Hutchens has just watched Peter Dutton walk into Malcolm Turnbull’s office, paper in hand.
Julie Bishop has walked in too.
Looks like this is it.
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 11:28
he walked in, showed the petition, and left.
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 12:15
Sky News is reporting the party room meeting will take place at 12.20pm.
They’re also showing us close-up shots of microphones and explaining their function. So, yeah.
作者: MICHELLE07 时间: 24-8-2018 12:22
办公室空了，都到咖啡厅看电视去了。。。
作者: Serin 时间: 24-8-2018 12:30
我的建议还是就事论事。对一堆不同的事情发表观点难免有矛盾之处。自由主义的话题上，Liberalism和Libertarianism也是有差别的，中文翻译在这里没法把意思表达得很清楚。
作者: yearshappy 时间: 24-8-2018 12:42
选党派和选总统的区别之一了， 澳选党派， 党内必然竞争了， 只是现在少有政治家不过政治权利的角斗
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 12:47
焦急的等待中....
作者: yearshappy 时间: 24-8-2018 12:49
无论谁主政， 你期望哪些大改变会发生呢？ 
作者: yearshappy 时间: 24-8-2018 12:49
无论谁主政， 你期望哪些大改变会发生呢？
作者: yearshappy 时间: 24-8-2018 12:49
无论谁主政， 你期望哪些大改变会发生呢？
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 12:58
Scott Morrison Australia's next PM, wins vote 45-40
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 12:59
可怜达顿
给别人了嫁衣
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 13:00
经济。。。
移民政策
对移民的态度
作者: 周星星1832 时间: 24-8-2018 13:02
A momentous moment in Australian political history. Scott Morrison becomes Australia’s 30th prime minister. The Liberal party room meeting is still going. We’ll soon hear from the whip on the official result.
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